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Immortal Rank Top-50% (2500 rank, ~8k+ MMR) stats for the past 7 days, data provided by Stratz.com

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			Performance				K/D/A			Farm				Combat				Objectives	Duration
	Hero	Matches	Winrate	DMG/Gold	Rank	Rev-Rank	Kills	Deaths	Assists	GPM	XPM	LH at 10	LH/min	Heal/min	HD/min	Taken HD/min	Stuns	TD/min	Time
	Hoodwink	763	47.71%	1.37	87.1	93.6	5.61	6.90	15.2	396.5	531.5	9.19	3.18	3.33	544.7	388.7	41.1	32.1	34:14
	Rubick	702	48.86%	1.29	88.7	91.1	4.64	7.44	16.5	375.4	499.4	10.4	2.37	11.0	482.7	406.5	61.5	27.8	34:19
	Spirit Breaker	618	56.31%	1.09	97.6	64.5	4.73	7.56	19.0	398.2	591.6	7.55	2.65	3.43	435.4	607.6	93.2	24.9	33:23
	Pudge	617	47.81%	1.17	83.9	92.7	5.43	8.90	13.6	364.2	496.8	10.2	2.20	13.5	426.6	637.5	24.6	19.5	33:52
	Dark Willow	506	57.31%	1.34	98.4	59.7	5.38	6.81	17.1	350.4	491.3	7.98	1.47	4.14	470.6	414.2	114.1	31.2	34:45
	Nyx Assassin	431	50.35%	1.49	89.5	79.0	6.29	8.85	13.6	362.2	533.9	11.2	1.61	1.43	538.5	521.5	59.5	17.7	34:15
	Tusk	424	46.23%	1.000	79.0	94.4	3.55	8.75	16.5	327.1	471.9	5.80	1.50	2.50	327.1	617.8	31.3	18.1	34:17
	Earthshaker	413	49.15%	1.22	85.5	84.7	4.03	8.00	16.4	371.7	503.6	8.97	2.53	2.10	453.8	501.5	84.7	24.2	34:12
	Shadow Shaman	406	58.37%	0.957	100.0	52.4	3.30	7.55	17.4	357.7	463.4	7.72	1.90	1.85	342.4	488.1	82.9	102.6	32:54
	Weaver	378	58.47%	1.37	99.2	50.8	7.02	6.60	16.7	412.9	583.5	10.4	2.89	12.3	566.5	563.6	1.64	71.3	33:47
	Bounty Hunter	351	51.85%	0.979	91.9	72.6	4.40	8.38	16.4	426.8	483.0	6.52	1.29	14.1	418.0	533.7	17.8	27.3	33:07
	Clockwerk	337	51.34%	1.46	90.3	73.4	4.48	8.56	17.0	357.6	470.2	8.38	2.04	6.11	522.9	631.8	47.5	18.2	33:42
	Lion	287	47.04%	1.05	77.4	87.1	4.38	8.57	14.3	323.5	455.9	7.10	1.21	1.81	339.2	443.1	99.9	17.5	33:43
	Skywrath Mage	286	46.15%	1.64	75.8	91.9	6.33	7.65	15.6	344.5	498.5	6.04	1.31	2.89	565.3	447.6	2.55	14.2	35:20
	Tiny	285	50.18%	1.20	84.7	75.8	4.79	7.33	16.7	381.9	524.0	8.18	2.64	1.61	459.8	635.5	42.6	46.4	34:07
	Venomancer	281	54.45%	1.61	95.2	62.9	3.78	8.53	18.8	387.9	484.3	10.6	2.62	38.0	622.8	466.6	1.80	49.1	34:18
	Phoenix	224	56.25%	1.38	96.8	54.0	5.29	7.37	16.2	390.0	528.8	12.0	2.83	104.7	538.4	417.5	6.41	27.6	35:24
	Zeus	222	54.95%	1.90	94.4	58.9	7.04	6.53	17.1	438.9	546.9	9.72	3.57	1.59	835.8	400.1	16.1	31.2	34:33
	Vengeful Spirit	215	53.49%	1.13	91.1	62.1	2.98	9.39	16.0	328.2	466.0	7.80	1.53	7.91	372.1	491.7	37.0	29.3	32:53
	Marci	208	45.67%	1.01	72.6	88.7	4.73	8.77	13.5	351.7	471.1	7.16	2.06	65.8	354.4	647.0	20.1	65.3	32:34
	Techies	205	39.02%	1.72	58.1	97.6	5.00	9.64	13.5	381.1	486.5	8.91	2.90	18.5	654.8	452.5	15.6	38.2	34:45
	Gyrocopter	203	55.67%	1.52	96.0	54.8	5.60	8.35	15.6	385.0	511.7	8.68	2.60	20.3	585.1	518.3	42.6	28.3	34:41
	Snapfire	202	45.54%	1.28	71.8	89.5	4.63	7.59	14.3	361.5	468.6	9.99	2.41	36.5	463.1	514.4	16.5	38.4	33:40
	Nature's Prophet	190	36.84%	1.22	54.0	98.4	4.17	9.47	14.1	395.7	464.0	8.86	3.85	29.9	483.1	502.8	2.76	70.0	31:58
	Mirana	169	46.15%	0.983	71.0	83.9	4.20	6.79	15.6	374.4	502.2	13.5	2.72	37.8	368.1	412.8	32.6	40.6	34:44
	Disruptor	165	49.70%	1.08	80.7	69.4	3.02	7.84	18.8	316.1	429.6	5.51	1.04	5.31	341.6	430.8	1.76	14.5	32:32
	Grimstroke	145	45.52%	1.00	67.7	83.1	3.68	7.78	16.8	330.9	452.6	8.74	1.69	16.9	331.0	399.2	19.4	13.3	34:10
	Earth Spirit	127	48.03%	1.30	73.4	71.0	4.26	9.23	15.7	354.0	474.2	9.30	2.02	11.3	461.8	658.0	23.1	17.9	32:46
	Batrider	125	45.60%	1.28	66.9	78.2	4.49	8.14	14.6	368.8	484.5	11.4	2.75	2.25	470.9	549.3	18.2	23.5	32:36
	Muerta	118	54.24%	1.29	86.3	48.4	4.61	7.26	15.4	390.9	509.3	9.57	3.16	4.96	504.1	445.2	8.06	72.4	33:35
	Shadow Demon	118	50.85%	1.23	76.6	60.5	4.65	7.84	15.0	341.2	443.8	8.86	1.65	18.9	418.4	439.7	7.89	28.0	33:33
	Invoker	115	38.26%	1.22	50.8	96.8	4.36	7.30	13.9	352.1	472.4	7.23	2.10	6.80	430.2	493.1	26.9	49.9	32:54
	Pugna	107	49.53%	1.48	75.0	65.3	3.79	7.72	13.7	360.3	438.0	11.6	2.32	94.7	534.9	455.2	0.211	171.4	32:25
	Silencer	106	51.89%	1.21	78.2	56.5	4.31	7.66	15.3	344.5	449.6	7.17	1.73	4.94	415.7	402.3	0.187	44.3	32:13
	Io	101	41.58%	0.616	56.5	90.3	2.18	6.53	14.6	284.6	437.2	6.31	0.922	403.8	175.2	519.6	0.079	46.3	31:22
	Winter Wyvern	99	57.58%	1.26	92.7	42.7	3.80	7.47	15.2	346.4	467.7	8.04	1.83	244.9	436.6	435.5	7.14	31.3	33:29
	Alchemist	96	41.67%	0.794	55.7	87.9	2.96	8.04	16.5	438.5	511.2	11.1	3.44	11.0	348.3	581.8	50.1	28.5	32:45
	Clinkz	93	43.01%	1.19	58.9	82.3	5.35	8.48	11.8	412.7	516.6	16.9	3.37	0.463	489.3	496.7	0.463	146.1	31:44
	Dawnbreaker	91	48.35%	1.08	68.6	66.1	3.89	7.45	15.2	392.2	524.5	13.6	3.70	160.7	421.7	594.0	2.10	21.5	32:10
	Monkey King	90	31.11%	0.993	41.1	100.0	3.71	8.71	11.3	340.1	443.2	8.54	2.65	2.82	337.8	473.1	21.1	32.3	30:52
	Windranger	87	55.17%	1.19	83.1	43.6	5.07	6.11	15.1	377.9	481.6	10.4	2.66	7.31	449.4	409.6	31.7	65.1	31:58
	Jakiro	84	53.57%	1.27	79.8	46.0	3.92	8.31	15.3	352.4	473.0	8.93	2.15	16.9	447.1	485.1	34.1	75.9	33:12
	Crystal Maiden	82	51.22%	1.20	74.2	51.6	3.79	7.96	15.2	344.7	455.3	7.70	1.82	2.35	414.3	424.1	15.5	22.1	32:00
	Bane	82	46.34%	1.13	63.7	68.6	3.87	7.49	13.5	310.2	418.6	7.21	1.18	1.91	350.9	521.2	28.4	24.8	32:02
	Lich	81	46.91%	1.34	65.3	66.9	4.12	9.04	15.7	339.7	462.4	7.02	1.72	11.1	455.1	467.1	3.49	11.6	33:42
	Ogre Magi	74	45.95%	1.29	61.3	67.7	3.82	7.89	14.8	382.1	502.4	8.05	2.10	15.1	493.2	579.0	39.1	20.6	34:39
	Abaddon	70	61.43%	0.831	93.6	30.7	2.93	6.06	15.3	332.2	447.7	8.00	1.46	275.5	276.0	475.3	0.158	49.1	32:10
	Witch Doctor	70	48.57%	1.38	66.1	58.1	7.17	9.30	14.1	395.2	482.9	9.63	2.07	123.7	544.4	499.3	30.4	18.4	34:23
	Ancient Apparition	68	55.88%	1.27	81.5	41.9	4.63	8.18	17.9	362.6	480.3	6.91	1.84	9.41	459.0	378.9	22.5	18.4	35:48
	Magnus	64	42.19%	0.954	51.6	74.2	2.58	8.45	14.4	322.7	450.5	9.66	1.85	1.32	307.7	561.8	7.19	13.7	31:19
	Undying	61	57.38%	0.827	82.3	35.5	4.20	7.36	17.0	358.5	465.1	9.52	2.01	155.5	296.5	632.5	0.046	36.3	31:34
	Enchantress	61	40.98%	1.22	47.6	76.6	4.15	6.90	10.1	348.2	480.3	12.1	2.55	50.2	425.9	511.3	1.05	76.4	31:29
	Warlock	58	48.28%	1.38	62.1	53.2	3.29	8.02	13.5	372.4	437.7	10.7	2.83	101.2	514.5	417.6	9.35	54.4	32:29
	Oracle	54	50.00%	0.866	64.5	46.8	3.15	6.85	12.8	294.3	347.9	6.54	1.13	272.8	254.9	383.5	7.55	25.5	29:41
	Doom	53	37.74%	0.883	44.4	86.3	3.51	8.49	11.9	399.7	461.4	13.3	2.52	5.73	352.8	622.3	13.8	17.3	31:57
	Faceless Void	52	53.85%	0.825	70.2	41.1	3.00	7.27	20.7	348.5	493.4	8.60	1.82	27.2	287.6	590.9	8.99	35.8	31:51
	Keeper of the Light	52	48.08%	1.11	60.5	49.2	3.21	7.06	14.1	392.6	495.6	19.1	3.39	153.3	435.0	446.6	0.807	20.1	34:20
	Puck	49	32.65%	1.39	39.5	96.0	3.78	7.53	12.3	338.6	450.0	8.92	2.33	2.24	472.0	450.5	40.9	32.5	29:54
	Treant Protector	46	43.48%	1.19	48.4	61.3	3.20	6.83	19.8	325.7	483.2	6.87	1.38	236.7	388.0	519.9	6.59	25.4	35:23
	Dazzle	45	48.89%	0.871	59.7	45.2	3.22	7.93	14.2	343.6	426.5	9.44	2.17	257.2	299.1	442.5	0.293	30.9	32:16
	Ember Spirit	43	44.19%	1.33	49.2	57.3	4.07	7.07	13.1	361.6	496.0	9.49	3.01	7.89	479.4	482.2	10.2	25.5	29:53
	Lina	41	56.10%	1.26	69.4	32.3	6.10	7.68	15.8	432.0	571.1	13.3	3.60	1.44	545.2	408.6	47.8	88.9	35:24
	Enigma	38	44.74%	1.24	46.8	50.0	3.37	8.66	13.2	380.5	465.5	19.7	3.45	17.4	473.6	418.4	96.8	56.3	34:38
	Riki	35	34.29%	0.959	37.9	81.5	4.40	7.71	13.0	300.6	483.4	7.03	1.37	5.33	288.2	427.2	0.323	14.4	33:10
	Pangolier	35	34.29%	1.06	37.9	81.5	3.80	8.63	12.7	359.6	475.0	14.1	3.08	3.79	379.8	499.2	18.8	31.0	31:55
	Elder Titan	33	51.52%	1.36	57.3	34.7	4.52	7.06	16.4	350.1	482.7	7.39	1.76	5.87	475.3	489.5	19.9	34.2	32:53
	Mars	32	43.75%	0.966	46.0	47.6	3.13	7.69	12.8	364.7	476.8	10.8	2.74	9.02	352.2	556.6	36.4	22.0	30:33
	Leshrac	30	66.67%	1.33	87.9	17.7	5.87	7.60	13.4	431.6	506.4	10.9	3.58	34.4	572.6	522.0	25.3	152.8	29:02
	Tinker	28	32.14%	1.38	34.7	77.4	1.93	6.39	10.6	366.4	441.5	13.6	4.29	79.3	503.9	398.4	0.935	23.9	28:38
	Terrorblade	24	45.83%	0.805	42.7	39.5	3.33	8.25	9.75	338.0	445.5	10.3	2.34	3.32	272.2	377.7	0.250	60.9	30:15
	Queen of Pain	24	45.83%	1.36	42.7	39.5	5.63	7.92	12.8	409.2	543.2	11.3	3.37	18.5	557.6	527.7	1.74	57.3	32:07
	Axe	23	52.17%	1.15	50.0	29.0	6.87	6.74	7.87	437.0	536.4	29.7	4.19	0.453	501.4	549.6	2.48	45.1	27:11
	Visage	22	54.55%	1.15	53.2	24.2	5.55	8.18	14.1	391.5	480.8	9.18	3.17	39.2	451.7	482.0	24.4	200.0	32:00
	Legion Commander	22	27.27%	0.996	25.0	85.5	2.82	6.50	7.14	308.6	376.8	19.0	2.98	20.8	307.3	425.7	0.944	27.2	24:07
	Sniper	18	27.78%	1.22	22.6	70.2	3.28	6.06	10.3	337.5	349.0	12.6	2.94	1.87	411.3	297.8	33.3	69.7	28:37
	Shadow Fiend	17	29.41%	1.06	24.2	63.7	5.00	7.82	6.06	406.7	487.5	23.4	4.93	6.05	429.9	435.7	1.26	82.1	27:17
	Void Spirit	17	23.53%	0.922	17.7	79.8	3.29	7.59	10.2	335.1	348.1	10.9	2.27	2.51	308.9	470.6	0.000	63.0	24:37
	Sand King	16	12.50%	1.19	10.5	99.2	2.56	8.44	6.88	336.8	439.9	19.8	4.08	0.115	400.0	510.9	31.4	3.52	28:05
	Night Stalker	15	53.33%	1.02	43.6	21.8	4.33	7.07	13.3	344.5	430.3	9.93	2.05	1.64	352.2	544.6	2.37	72.3	27:06
	Razor	14	21.43%	0.881	14.5	75.0	2.14	5.50	4.93	309.5	342.7	12.6	3.43	0.227	272.6	350.5	0.055	43.7	20:29
	Centaur Warrunner	13	38.46%	0.762	31.5	33.9	3.00	7.77	10.7	349.5	416.0	12.1	2.75	0.556	266.3	533.6	27.9	26.2	27:41
	Viper	13	38.46%	1.37	31.5	33.9	3.69	8.08	8.54	322.3	350.5	11.2	2.48	6.52	442.8	450.4	1.94	36.4	24:52
	Omniknight	12	50.00%	0.617	38.7	21.0	2.92	5.33	12.4	328.2	431.5	9.67	1.67	226.5	202.4	476.7	0.228	15.4	31:14
	Luna	12	41.67%	1.27	32.3	27.4	3.75	5.42	11.5	321.9	424.0	8.50	2.60	0.000	409.7	315.9	24.4	63.8	30:33
	Templar Assassin	12	25.00%	0.685	16.1	55.7	3.83	3.33	2.50	339.8	356.3	29.3	4.50	0.000	232.6	203.4	0.000	64.2	18:19
	Phantom Assassin	11	72.73%	0.714	62.9	5.65	3.27	5.73	6.91	346.5	357.1	15.5	2.67	1.37	247.4	260.3	1.62	166.5	21:37
	Slardar	11	45.45%	0.669	35.5	23.4	3.00	6.64	9.73	376.5	449.7	18.1	3.59	0.000	252.0	483.4	91.2	81.7	27:14
	Chen	11	36.36%	0.530	25.8	31.5	1.64	5.27	10.5	324.8	393.9	16.5	2.62	136.7	172.2	334.4	5.03	117.6	29:47
	Death Prophet	11	9.09%	1.02	7.26	95.2	1.91	6.91	5.36	282.5	337.8	14.9	2.65	0.000	287.4	524.1	0.000	11.4	23:36
	Huskar	10	40.00%	0.821	29.8	25.8	2.70	7.50	4.20	371.0	433.8	39.4	4.34	2.32	304.4	398.2	0.000	81.3	24:47
	Timbersaw	10	40.00%	1.21	29.8	25.8	5.70	7.00	10.3	398.4	459.3	11.9	3.81	0.000	482.0	570.1	0.193	13.8	26:25
	Meepo	10	30.00%	0.534	18.6	37.9	1.90	4.50	4.50	306.3	286.7	19.4	2.69	0.000	163.7	424.2	0.654	65.2	16:55
	Chaos Knight	9	33.33%	0.685	19.4	29.8	2.00	4.78	6.00	309.6	362.6	15.7	3.83	0.330	212.0	346.7	22.9	22.0	23:59
	Arc Warden	9	22.22%	1.12	11.3	44.4	4.33	6.22	6.44	353.3	374.9	12.0	2.88	3.96	395.2	462.3	3.38	35.6	21:47
	Kunkka	8	75.00%	1.05	52.4	3.23	3.25	6.38	17.4	377.1	465.3	9.88	2.05	17.4	397.8	501.4	40.6	30.5	30:10
	Naga Siren	8	50.00%	0.499	33.9	16.1	1.000	8.88	14.8	292.5	401.1	6.25	1.59	0.000	146.1	501.1	6.34	26.4	32:04
	Dragon Knight	8	50.00%	0.952	33.9	16.1	3.25	6.63	12.5	406.4	472.1	17.5	3.93	0.000	386.7	597.2	29.4	91.9	26:19
	Storm Spirit	8	25.00%	0.855	12.9	37.1	2.63	6.63	5.25	304.0	370.4	15.8	3.48	0.306	260.0	325.6	7.34	21.1	21:25
	Ursa	7	71.43%	1.01	45.2	4.03	4.57	7.14	8.71	411.4	512.6	19.7	4.40	6.30	413.8	500.0	3.21	67.0	27:38
	Underlord	7	42.86%	1.10	23.4	18.6	2.29	4.14	6.57	321.3	299.1	13.7	2.73	0.000	354.8	334.8	20.3	85.0	20:23
	Slark	7	28.57%	0.598	13.7	28.2	2.00	5.14	5.86	304.6	328.4	10.9	2.50	0.000	182.2	356.7	0.000	49.6	22:21
	Sven	6	66.67%	0.493	40.3	4.84	3.00	4.83	15.8	413.8	484.0	8.67	3.20	13.4	204.2	415.4	28.9	192.1	29:10
	Primal Beast	6	50.00%	1.29	28.2	13.7	6.00	7.83	16.3	406.8	601.8	17.5	3.33	0.585	524.8	684.9	33.8	49.5	33:12
	Bristleback	6	50.00%	0.950	28.2	13.7	3.50	6.67	8.83	351.5	522.8	21.7	3.71	0.000	334.0	462.8	0.000	67.3	26:04
	Tidehunter	6	50.00%	0.846	28.2	13.7	1.83	4.00	13.3	356.5	453.3	15.7	2.54	42.1	301.8	353.3	19.6	94.8	24:31
	Wraith King	6	33.33%	0.640	15.3	22.6	2.17	4.00	4.83	338.2	387.3	17.8	3.64	0.913	216.5	460.6	55.4	71.2	24:55
	Necrophos	6	16.67%	1.03	8.06	36.3	5.67	10.00	8.33	417.8	558.0	28.2	4.97	97.6	432.4	843.2	9.16	8.76	33:00
	Juggernaut	6	0.00%	0.423	4.84	71.8	0.333	5.17	0.500	188.2	199.5	11.8	1.63	4.68	79.6	321.1	0.000	6.18	14:14
	Dark Seer	5	40.00%	0.870	16.9	14.5	2.00	3.60	4.40	273.8	262.4	6.60	2.81	17.2	238.2	314.9	5.19	84.0	18:15
	Medusa	4	100.00%	0.496	54.8	0.810	0.750	2.25	8.50	385.5	385.5	14.8	4.19	0.000	191.3	55.3	25.3	112.8	23:36
	Lone Druid	4	50.00%	0.530	21.8	11.3	1.75	4.50	5.50	281.8	250.5	3.25	0.510	0.000	149.4	148.1	0.000	14.3	20:07
	Outworld Destroyer	4	50.00%	0.902	21.8	11.3	4.50	5.25	7.25	339.8	332.0	10.00	1.74	3.15	306.5	324.6	0.690	98.9	26:20
	Spectre	4	50.00%	0.582	21.8	11.3	2.50	3.25	6.25	290.3	137.0	6.50	1.08	0.000	169.0	183.1	0.000	78.2	14:31
	Anti-Mage	4	25.00%	0.233	9.68	20.2	0.500	2.25	0.750	264.3	282.8	16.8	2.73	0.000	61.5	291.8	0.033	57.8	16:28
	Drow Ranger	4	25.00%	0.807	9.68	20.2	1.25	4.50	2.50	261.5	272.8	10.8	2.16	0.000	211.1	291.7	0.693	50.4	16:19
	Brewmaster	4	0.00%	1.09	6.45	40.3	1.75	9.75	8.50	318.5	403.0	16.0	3.23	3.92	347.2	595.0	9.41	0.750	27:11
	Morphling	3	0.00%	0.501	5.65	26.6	2.00	4.00	4.00	248.3	323.7	13.3	2.00	4.11	124.4	330.1	21.5	1.42	24:10
	Beastmaster	2	100.00%	0.986	36.3	1.61	8.00	4.00	13.5	587.5	647.5	31.0	6.22	0.000	579.2	515.0	20.2	146.2	28:42
	Lycan	2	50.00%	0.209	12.1	2.42	0.500	4.00	2.00	374.5	377.5	39.0	5.46	4.18	78.4	208.4	0.000	161.7	23:38
	Broodmother	2	0.00%	0.453	4.03	16.9	2.50	4.50	7.50	422.0	552.5	12.0	5.79	0.000	191.1	366.1	0.000	31.2	27:54
	Troll Warlord	1	0.00%	0.712	3.23	8.87	3.00	15.0	2.00	494.0	631.0	20.0	7.71	0.000	351.8	500.9	0.000	163.0	39:47
	Lifestealer	1	0.00%	1.09	3.23	8.87	1.000	9.00	7.00	284.0	431.0	2.00	2.19	32.1	309.6	660.9	0.000	8.37	37:31
	Bloodseeker	1	0.00%	0.795	3.23	8.87	1.000	8.00	2.00	240.0	283.0	10.00	3.43	0.000	190.9	301.2	1.28	0.000	30:01
	Phantom Lancer	1	0.00%	0.305	3.23	8.87	0.000	0.000	0.000	113.0	201.0	5.00	0.467	0.000	34.5	120.7	0.000	0.000	10:41

This section contains stats for heroes' performance on various positions. Positions are determined based on players performance (core or support) and lane. Supports across all lanes (including roamers) are considered as one role. Lanes and positions may not be accurate.